Wizards Are Real

Photo by Neza S.G.
The first time I saw Wizards are Real perform was on the tiny stage in the now-defunct Eclipse Records space, and I distinctly remember my mind being very thoroughly blown. No band in the Twin Cities has a sound quite like this one. Melanie Bergstrom’s Jazzy Sax and Ted Held’s funk-inflected basslines might be familiar to fans of Morphine, but the addition of Brian O’Neil’s reverb-drenched Pedal Steel guitar and Tim Baumgart’s crisp fusion drumming put things into a whole ‘nother universe. In our interview the band talks about the difficulties of making instrumental music, their brand new Vinyl-only album, and the unimpeachable cool of the Saxaphone.
W: What were the origins of Wizards?
Brian: It sorta started as a side project, Me and Tim and Brian played in a different band back in the day and I started doing this tracking on a little 4-track machine with a drum machine. Melanie and I are married and she played Sax in high school, so I told her “you should get a tenor sax.” She picked one up and we started adding the tenor sax to some of those tracks and found out that we really liked the sound of the sax and the steel guitar together. From there we kind of picked up a drummer and a bass player that ended up leaving about six months later. Eventually we conned Tim and Ted into joining and we’ve been at it for a couple of years now.
W: How does your songwriting process work?
B: For a while Ted and I would meet up at the practice space and record stuff on a little field recorder and then bring it to the band to fill it out. But these days it’s kind of morphed a little bit and we usually just meet up, drink a few beers and see what comes out.
Ted: It kind of started that way too, and then for a while I think Brian and I decided we wanted to be kind of a writing duo for a little while, but now we’ve gone back to the practice space method.
W: What are your musical backgrounds like?
Melanie: I’m the only one that doesn’t have a history in the Twin Cities music scene, I played the alto saxaphone from grade school to freshman year of high school, then quit for like 12 years before picking it back up. So I obviously don’t have any real training, I didn’t exactly go to Juliard or anything.
W: You guys are part of the Electric Orange Music Collective, could you talk a little bit about what that is and how you got involved with that group of bands?
B: It started when Wizards are Real played a show with Dragons Power Up! at the Uptown Bar back when that was still open. Chris [Lead Vox for DPU!] and I really hit it off and we talked about how it’d be great if we got a bunch of bands together to support each other and get the word out. From there it just kind of picked up and I think we’re at about 10 bands now. What we’re really trying to do is just help one another spread the word of mouth and occasionally play some collective shows or release some free compilations with everyone on it.
T: I think it’s really what a lot of record labels are like these days: just a name, I mean there’s no financial backing or anything, all the bands are responsible for handling their own business, but somehow it seems to get people’s attention more if there’s a name for it.
W: Did you decide from the get-go that Wizards would be an instrumental group?
B: Not really, I personally fantasized a little bit about being in a super-serious dark instrumental band but it turned out to actually be really a blast and that’s really more of the focus of it. It’s kind of a challenge actually, when you don’t have a singer to play off of you’re sort of out there naked.
T: I remember when Brian first told us about his bedroom recordings with Mel and the drum machine and I hadn’t heard any of it yet and he told me it was going to be instrumental and I went “oh, that’s cute.” But then I heard it and thought “wow, that’s really cool.”
B: It’s definitely something we’ve thought about, but we’ve never exactly auditioned a vocalist or anything, and by this point it’s pretty safe to say we’re never going to.
W: How big of a role does improvisation play in your live shows?
T: There’s one or two songs where there’s a little room for improvisation, but for the most part the structures of the songs are pretty set.
M: For me our song “Flavor of Coal” is probably the one with the most improvisation.
T: The closest I can come to it from my record collection is a group like Television, where a lot of their stuff sounds improvised, but they always have specific points in their songs where it’s sort of a cue and the whole band knows that means it’s time to go into the next part. So there’s quite a lot of structure, more than I think a lot of hardcore jazz-ers have in their music.
W: You’re just about to release your self-titled debut album. What was the recording process like?
B: For this one we used a studio called Underwood Studios in Uptown with our friend Mark and it was…difficult. We actually started the album process at a different studio and ended up recording a whole album and scrapping it.
M: I think that some of it might have been us, we jumped the gun a bit and tried to record too early, when we weren’t really ready as a band yet.
B: We wanted to record all of the songs live-style in the studio and I think a lot of engineers don’t really know how to approach that. Eventually we went back and overdubbed a few steel guitar and sax tracks just to get a different sound.
W: You’re self-releasing this album on vinyl, that’s a pretty hefty task for a band. How has the battle been so far?
B: Oh, it’s been tough, but it’s incredibly rewarding and the best part about it is we don’t owe anything to anybody, it’s our record and we can do what we want with it.
T: We didn’t even have to put a UPC code on the back.
B: We really got to keep it real.
T: Yeah, we can choose to sell them or…not sell them [Laughs]
W: Why Vinyl?
T: Well, none of us have ever been in a band that’s been able to release a Vinyl LP until now and we’re all big music nerds and record collectors so it just seemed like a natural choice.
T: No one really seems to get all that excited about CDs anymore and it honestly does sound better too.
B: I still listen to CDs but I love the feel of vinyl and interacting with this huge piece of art. When I got the boxes from the pressing plant I was just losing my mind, trying to take photos for the Facebook page and my hands were shaking.
W: The pedal-steel is definitely a unique texture. When did you decide that it was the right sound for Wizards? And are the rumors about Brian having a pedal steel tattoo true?
B: Yes they are! I’ve been playing steel since around 2002 but in the early stages of Wizards are Real I was actually playing a regular six-string and the in just sort of occurred to me “Why am I not playing the instrument I play?”. It wasn’t really until we put the tenor sax on top the pedal steel that I decided that this was the sound I wanted.
W: Your sound is pretty tough to pin down. Would you say that Wizards is a rock group or a Jazz group at heart?
T: A rock band, [murmurs of agreement] we’ve definitely got the heart of a rock band.
M: Yeah, if you look at the other bands that we play with, it’s always rock groups.
T: We haven’t exactly had a lot of Jazz groups banging on our door to open for us.
W: How do you feel about the phrase “psychedelic” being used to describe your music?
T: I kind of like that, in fact I’ve called it “Psychedelic Fusion” because it makes people say “Well, what is that?” and I get to say “Looks like you’ll have to come check us out and find out!”
W: Some critics have compared Wizards to Post-Rock groups like Godspeed You Black Emperor. Is that something y’all would like to be associated with?
B: Well, I’d love to play a show with those guys.
T: I mean, I like Godspeed a lot but I think that’s a comparison that people who see an instrumental rock group kind of make automatically. I don’t think we’re that dark and our songs aren’t that long. We might be epic, but we’re epic in like, five minutes rather than like, ten.
W: Mark Wheat called out the saxaphone the other day on Musicheads [on 89.3 The Current] and claimed it was never cool and never will be cool. I’d like to get the official Wizards are Real response to that.
M: Well, I obviously disagree, I think sax is actually making a comeback right now, I mean, it’s all over than new Destroyer record and that’s a really cool album. I think it might have been uncool for a while but it’s definitely on it’s way back.
T: I can only speak for myself but I think he is just wrong.
W: It’s hard out there for a band without a singer to get a big hit, what kind of goals do you have for Wizards as far as radio play and record sales go?
B: If that’s how it’s gonna be then I think we’re fine with it, this band was never really about that to begin with. If people like it, that’s awesome, and if they play it on the radio, I know Radio K has, that’s awesome too but that’s not really the goal, the goal is to challenge ourselves musically and keep moving forward.
W: What’s next for Wizards after the album release?
B: Get right back in the studio and record another EP, we gotta give Vinyl release number two a try and see how we get through that one!
Still confused about what “Psychedelic Fusion” is? The band was awesome enough to let us pimp their spacey new epic “Falconry” to our lovely readers, so make sure to go thank them at their next show. The song starts out with a hypnotic bit of pedal steel Brian before Tim brings the track in with slow avalanche of tom-toms. Stay tuned for some killer bass grooves from Ted and see if Melanie’s droning sax doesn’t cast a spell over you like it did all of us at the Wake Offices. Enjoy!
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